Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
The amount of nonsense questions in these forums is starting to get out of hand.
And where you found "nonsense" here? You may do whatever you wish, but I personally rather buy two separate tickets and shift my baggage by myself. This is all what is post about.
I agree Serg. This stuff is wrong and should be called out. Seems a common Melbourne departure issue. I have had a few examples that don’t make any sense on a number of different airlines. The ignorant will probably just book the higher fare. Others investing this heavily will look a bit deeper and see that the numbers don’t add up, book the trip a different way and save some bucks!
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
Serg,
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
Serg,
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
You, perhaps, missed the point. If one book MEL-AKL-LAX as one ticket it would be dearer than booking two separate tickets MEL-AKL and AKL-LAX. Difference is substantial and this is totally abnormal because logic saying that it should be other way around and difference should be minimal. I do know that nothing linear when it came to airfare tickets, but why I should invest so much time and became professional in this booking procedure instead of just buying ticket and fly???
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
Serg,
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
You, perhaps, missed the point. If one book MEL-AKL-LAX as one ticket it would be dearer than booking two separate tickets MEL-AKL and AKL-LAX. Difference is substantial and this is totally abnormal because logic saying that it should be other way around and difference should be minimal. I do know that nothing linear when it came to airfare tickets, but why I should invest so much time and became professional in this booking procedure instead of just buying ticket and fly???
The airlines want you to just buy the ticket without questions. You, Serg, are a savvy customer. By investing time you save money and avoid being ripped off. Well done!
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
Serg,
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
You, perhaps, missed the point. If one book MEL-AKL-LAX as one ticket it would be dearer than booking two separate tickets MEL-AKL and AKL-LAX. Difference is substantial and this is totally abnormal because logic saying that it should be other way around and difference should be minimal. I do know that nothing linear when it came to airfare tickets, but why I should invest so much time and became professional in this booking procedure instead of just buying ticket and fly???
The airlines want you to just buy the ticket without questions. You, Serg, are a savvy customer. By investing time you save money and avoid being ripped off. Well done!
or maybe you don't avoid being ripped off, but at least you know you're being ripped off!
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
Serg,
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
You, perhaps, missed the point. If one book MEL-AKL-LAX as one ticket it would be dearer than booking two separate tickets MEL-AKL and AKL-LAX. Difference is substantial and this is totally abnormal because logic saying that it should be other way around and difference should be minimal. I do know that nothing linear when it came to airfare tickets, but why I should invest so much time and became professional in this booking procedure instead of just buying ticket and fly???
The airlines want you to just buy the ticket without questions. You, Serg, are a savvy customer. By investing time you save money and avoid being ripped off. Well done!
or maybe you don't avoid being ripped off, but at least you know you're being ripped off!
SYD-JFK in J by Classic Robbery(I could not find Classic Reward) is about 800k point one way and it stops in AKL
Meanwhile AKL-JFK Classic Robbery is about 300K plus SYD-AKL Classic Reward by Latam about 44K
Someone still believe that it is useless thread? I would suggest all fellow travelers to put here similar examples so other people could avoid to pay twice or even more to greedy airlines.
I get frustrated by the constant questioning of how airlines price their airfares.
If Air NZ priced their AKL-LAX tickets more than their MEL-AKL-LAX tickets there is outrage because you have to pay more to fly less distance. There is no consideration for the fact you’re paying for convenience of a direct flight.
Then, in this thread, an airline chooses to charge a premium for a connecting ticket over two one-ways covering the same route. Let’s not mention that connecting tickets provide some protections like accommodation and rebooking in the event you miss your flight, which one way tickets don’t offer. Or that the MEL-LAX market has customers with more disposable income.
These are private companies that are selling their products at rates which they believe market forces will permit them to make the most profit. This is exactly what private companies should be doing.
We no longer have nationalised airlines with set prices on each route, or protections that allow only a single carrier to operate some routes. Let’s acknowledge that we all benefit from that, in that we can now fly SYD-MEL for as low as $50. This would have cost over $500 in equivalent money during the days of regulation.
If you’re not happy with the price offered, don’t buy it. Let the market dictate the price. This is what deregulation means. I can guarantee that you’ll lose that battle as there are plenty of people that will buy tickets at that price, which is why these private companies continue to sell in that manner.
Handy tip - if you buy 2 sperate tickets with the same airline or partner airlines/alliance, then at check show both itineraries and they will connect the 2 separate bookings and through check your bag. Your flights is protected also for any delays etc from time of check in.
I get frustrated by the constant questioning of how airlines price their airfares.
If Air NZ priced their AKL-LAX tickets more than their MEL-AKL-LAX tickets there is outrage because you have to pay more to fly less distance. There is no consideration for the fact you’re paying for convenience of a direct flight.
Then, in this thread, an airline chooses to charge a premium for a connecting ticket over two one-ways covering the same route. Let’s not mention that connecting tickets provide some protections like accommodation and rebooking in the event you miss your flight, which one way tickets don’t offer. Or that the MEL-LAX market has customers with more disposable income.
These are private companies that are selling their products at rates which they believe market forces will permit them to make the most profit. This is exactly what private companies should be doing.
We no longer have nationalised airlines with set prices on each route, or protections that allow only a single carrier to operate some routes. Let’s acknowledge that we all benefit from that, in that we can now fly SYD-MEL for as low as $50. This would have cost over $500 in equivalent money during the days of regulation.
If you’re not happy with the price offered, don’t buy it. Let the market dictate the price. This is what deregulation means. I can guarantee that you’ll lose that battle as there are plenty of people that will buy tickets at that price, which is why these private companies continue to sell in that manner.
Then just do not participate - it is voluntary anyway.
No we do not benefit from deregulation - I actually feel other way around. Only positive things that you can fly one way only without much if any penalty and this is usually only for domestic flights.
Though I agree with you that stupid herd will spoil everything. Actually all so called "marketing" squarely oriented exactly on stupid herd and planting in their heads that everyone only benefit from this situation. Apparently it works and I agree that given individual cannot do much. Just share finding and try to be smarter than stupid herd.
Handy tip - if you buy 2 sperate tickets with the same airline or partner airlines/alliance, then at check show both itineraries and they will connect the 2 separate bookings and through check your bag. Your flights is protected also for any delays etc from time of check in.
This tip was working like a marvel before COVID and they usually never reject such request even within One World (i.e. different airlines). Now it is not that straight forward - recently I been rejected to join itinerary even when I flown in business and there was plenty of time in transit. So be aware and plan accordingly - you may be forced to get out and check-in again. This days for my leisure trips I rather stay few days in transit country and see something around.
Serg
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Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
vhojm
vhojm
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The amount of nonsense questions in these forums is starting to get out of hand.
Serg
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Originally Posted by vhojm
The amount of nonsense questions in these forums is starting to get out of hand.
APACPete
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Member since 09 Jun 2017
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I agree Serg. This stuff is wrong and should be called out. Seems a common Melbourne departure issue. I have had a few examples that don’t make any sense on a number of different airlines. The ignorant will probably just book the higher fare. Others investing this heavily will look a bit deeper and see that the numbers don’t add up, book the trip a different way and save some bucks!
tommygun
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Member since 16 Oct 2017
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Originally Posted by vhojm
The amount of nonsense questions in these forums is starting to get out of hand.
F8.1
F8.1
Member since 02 Oct 2016
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Originally Posted by Serg
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
Serg
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Originally Posted by F8.1
Originally Posted by Serg
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
tommygun
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Originally Posted by Serg
Originally Posted by F8.1
Originally Posted by Serg
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
The airlines want you to just buy the ticket without questions. You, Serg, are a savvy customer. By investing time you save money and avoid being ripped off. Well done!
dm12
dm12
Member since 08 Feb 2018
Total posts 211
Originally Posted by tommygun
Originally Posted by Serg
Originally Posted by F8.1
Originally Posted by Serg
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
The airlines want you to just buy the ticket without questions. You, Serg, are a savvy customer. By investing time you save money and avoid being ripped off. Well done!
Serg
Serg
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Originally Posted by dm12
Originally Posted by tommygun
Originally Posted by Serg
Originally Posted by F8.1
Originally Posted by Serg
Dummy quote MEL-LAX-MEL by NZ give about $9700 for return trip in J. At the same time AKL-LAX-AKL put you back for 6.5k And if you flight in J MEL-AKL-MEL it would be around 1.5k 6500+1500=8000. So where other $1700 spend? Just to shift bags from one flight to other?
This isn't so unusual. Airfares out of Singapore are often way cheaper than from Perth to the same destination. A good example on some days at present is PER to JFK with Singapore Airlines. SIN - JFK in premium economy on the non-stop flight is $1,500 one way. PER - JFK is around four times that on the same day. Buy two tickets and save a heap.
The airlines want you to just buy the ticket without questions. You, Serg, are a savvy customer. By investing time you save money and avoid being ripped off. Well done!
If it only makes you feel better!
Serg
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Another example of unspeakable stupidity.
SYD-JFK in J by Classic Robbery(I could not find Classic Reward) is about 800k point one way and it stops in AKL
Meanwhile AKL-JFK Classic Robbery is about 300K plus SYD-AKL Classic Reward by Latam about 44K
Someone still believe that it is useless thread? I would suggest all fellow travelers to put here similar examples so other people could avoid to pay twice or even more to greedy airlines.
WelcomeAboard
WelcomeAboard
Member since 18 Apr 2023
Total posts 5
I get frustrated by the constant questioning of how airlines price their airfares.
If Air NZ priced their AKL-LAX tickets more than their MEL-AKL-LAX tickets there is outrage because you have to pay more to fly less distance. There is no consideration for the fact you’re paying for convenience of a direct flight.
Then, in this thread, an airline chooses to charge a premium for a connecting ticket over two one-ways covering the same route. Let’s not mention that connecting tickets provide some protections like accommodation and rebooking in the event you miss your flight, which one way tickets don’t offer. Or that the MEL-LAX market has customers with more disposable income.
These are private companies that are selling their products at rates which they believe market forces will permit them to make the most profit. This is exactly what private companies should be doing.
We no longer have nationalised airlines with set prices on each route, or protections that allow only a single carrier to operate some routes. Let’s acknowledge that we all benefit from that, in that we can now fly SYD-MEL for as low as $50. This would have cost over $500 in equivalent money during the days of regulation.
If you’re not happy with the price offered, don’t buy it. Let the market dictate the price. This is what deregulation means. I can guarantee that you’ll lose that battle as there are plenty of people that will buy tickets at that price, which is why these private companies continue to sell in that manner.
Dan22
Dan22
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Member since 07 Aug 2013
Total posts 168
Handy tip - if you buy 2 sperate tickets with the same airline or partner airlines/alliance, then at check show both itineraries and they will connect the 2 separate bookings and through check your bag. Your flights is protected also for any delays etc from time of check in.
Serg
Serg
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Originally Posted by WelcomeAboard
I get frustrated by the constant questioning of how airlines price their airfares.
If Air NZ priced their AKL-LAX tickets more than their MEL-AKL-LAX tickets there is outrage because you have to pay more to fly less distance. There is no consideration for the fact you’re paying for convenience of a direct flight.
Then, in this thread, an airline chooses to charge a premium for a connecting ticket over two one-ways covering the same route. Let’s not mention that connecting tickets provide some protections like accommodation and rebooking in the event you miss your flight, which one way tickets don’t offer. Or that the MEL-LAX market has customers with more disposable income.
These are private companies that are selling their products at rates which they believe market forces will permit them to make the most profit. This is exactly what private companies should be doing.
We no longer have nationalised airlines with set prices on each route, or protections that allow only a single carrier to operate some routes. Let’s acknowledge that we all benefit from that, in that we can now fly SYD-MEL for as low as $50. This would have cost over $500 in equivalent money during the days of regulation.
If you’re not happy with the price offered, don’t buy it. Let the market dictate the price. This is what deregulation means. I can guarantee that you’ll lose that battle as there are plenty of people that will buy tickets at that price, which is why these private companies continue to sell in that manner.
Then just do not participate - it is voluntary anyway.
No we do not benefit from deregulation - I actually feel other way around. Only positive things that you can fly one way only without much if any penalty and this is usually only for domestic flights.
Though I agree with you that stupid herd will spoil everything. Actually all so called "marketing" squarely oriented exactly on stupid herd and planting in their heads that everyone only benefit from this situation. Apparently it works and I agree that given individual cannot do much. Just share finding and try to be smarter than stupid herd.
Serg
Serg
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Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Originally Posted by Dan22
Handy tip - if you buy 2 sperate tickets with the same airline or partner airlines/alliance, then at check show both itineraries and they will connect the 2 separate bookings and through check your bag. Your flights is protected also for any delays etc from time of check in.
This tip was working like a marvel before COVID and they usually never reject such request even within One World (i.e. different airlines). Now it is not that straight forward - recently I been rejected to join itinerary even when I flown in business and there was plenty of time in transit. So be aware and plan accordingly - you may be forced to get out and check-in again. This days for my leisure trips I rather stay few days in transit country and see something around.