Just have a check one year ahead flights to LAX from MEL, SYD and BNE. No classic reward at all including cattle class even singe seat, only "Classic Plus" that deserve better name "Classic Scam". Exactly what I told in other thread - it is not to release more seats, it is for getting more points from QFF members and still claim that "we make available 3 million classic seats for all destinations"! SYD-LHR the same - "true" classic only available on non-QF flights. Therefore other carriers catering better for QFF members than QF itself! Truly disgusting!
Qantas quite literally repackaged Points + Pay, increased point costs and marketed as a polished turd that'll "revolutionise the way we book points flights"
To be fair (and this is a rare occurrence) you can find sale fares that end up costing less then a classic reward flight. So while it basically is the same as points + pay, there is that little positive nugget.
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
To be fair (and this is a rare occurrence) you can find sale fares that end up costing less then a classic reward flight. So while it basically is the same as points + pay, there is that little positive nugget.
I am curious to see them by my own eyes. And I bet it would be some early morning flight MEL-SYD on Sunday that no-one like to fly. It is kinda as selling those empty seats immediately before take off and market them as "double seats for more privacy"
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
You are doing this, I am doing this and many more smart travelers doing this. But it will not change anything on global scale because of supply/demand or market forces or how I call it law of herd. It is the same as say lets stop buying sardine class and it force them to reduce it in favor of PE/J that lower prices on PE/J. I never fly in cattle class on intercontinental routes, but I fail to see that that cattle class is empty.
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
You are doing this, I am doing this and many more smart travelers doing this. But it will not change anything on global scale because of supply/demand or market forces or how I call it law of herd. It is the same as say lets stop buying sardine class and it force them to reduce it in favor of PE/J that lower prices on PE/J. I never fly in cattle class on intercontinental routes, but I fail to see that that cattle class is empty.
Not surprised. Qantas seems to have terrible marketing/data analysts that continually create programs that push loyal customers away and send them to their competitors. Another example is their Lifetime Platinum threshold that is enough to send any rational loyal customers to another FF program.
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
You are doing this, I am doing this and many more smart travelers doing this. But it will not change anything on global scale because of supply/demand or market forces or how I call it law of herd. It is the same as say lets stop buying sardine class and it force them to reduce it in favor of PE/J that lower prices on PE/J. I never fly in cattle class on intercontinental routes, but I fail to see that that cattle class is empty.
Not surprised. Qantas seems to have terrible marketing/data analysts that continually create programs that push loyal customers away and send them to their competitors. Another example is their Lifetime Platinum threshold that is enough to send any rational loyal customers to another FF program.
They lock many customers like myself via QFF - it is BY FAR easiest way to collect points in Australia via Credit Cards. Would be great if they not just match status, but also transfer points to Star Alliance
Qantas quite literally repackaged Points + Pay, increased point costs and marketed as a polished turd that'll "revolutionise the way we book points flights"
Qantas belongs in the bin along with their board.
Yes, but the added enhancement of ZERO QFF points and status credits!! Great work!
Qantas quite literally repackaged Points + Pay, increased point costs and marketed as a polished turd that'll "revolutionise the way we book points flights"
Qantas belongs in the bin along with their board.
Yes, but the added enhancement of ZERO QFF points and status credits!! Great work!
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So-called "Classic Plus" is total disgrace!
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Just have a check one year ahead flights to LAX from MEL, SYD and BNE. No classic reward at all including cattle class even singe seat, only "Classic Plus" that deserve better name "Classic Scam". Exactly what I told in other thread - it is not to release more seats, it is for getting more points from QFF members and still claim that "we make available 3 million classic seats for all destinations"! SYD-LHR the same - "true" classic only available on non-QF flights. Therefore other carriers catering better for QFF members than QF itself! Truly disgusting!
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Checked few other destinations. All the same - for MEL-NRT "Classic Scam" rate for economy on QF metal is dearer than J on JAL!
Drakesy
Drakesy
Member since 11 Sep 2018
Total posts 24
Qantas quite literally repackaged Points + Pay, increased point costs and marketed as a polished turd that'll "revolutionise the way we book points flights"
Qantas belongs in the bin along with their board.
Matt2
Matt2
Member since 11 Jul 2018
Total posts 9
To be fair (and this is a rare occurrence) you can find sale fares that end up costing less then a classic reward flight. So while it basically is the same as points + pay, there is that little positive nugget.
sydney slug
sydney slug
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 27 Feb 2015
Total posts 13
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Originally Posted by Matt2
To be fair (and this is a rare occurrence) you can find sale fares that end up costing less then a classic reward flight. So while it basically is the same as points + pay, there is that little positive nugget.
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Originally Posted by sydney slug
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
You are doing this, I am doing this and many more smart travelers doing this. But it will not change anything on global scale because of supply/demand or market forces or how I call it law of herd. It is the same as say lets stop buying sardine class and it force them to reduce it in favor of PE/J that lower prices on PE/J. I never fly in cattle class on intercontinental routes, but I fail to see that that cattle class is empty.
quantumreality
quantumreality
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 16 Jan 2018
Total posts 71
Originally Posted by Serg
Originally Posted by sydney slug
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
You are doing this, I am doing this and many more smart travelers doing this. But it will not change anything on global scale because of supply/demand or market forces or how I call it law of herd. It is the same as say lets stop buying sardine class and it force them to reduce it in favor of PE/J that lower prices on PE/J. I never fly in cattle class on intercontinental routes, but I fail to see that that cattle class is empty.
Serg
Serg
QFF
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Originally Posted by quantumreality
Originally Posted by Serg
Originally Posted by sydney slug
So if we all want to punish Qantas for this cynical attempt to get us to burn our impossible to use points, we need to only book non QF metal with FF points. That is a revenue loss for QF compared to carrying that passenger as they have to pay away to the other provider. Have just booked Sri Lankan SYD to LHR in April in J. 26 hours on the way there and a stopover in CMB on the way back. Enough smart people forcing Qantas to pay away to their OneWorld partners might help them have a rethink.
You are doing this, I am doing this and many more smart travelers doing this. But it will not change anything on global scale because of supply/demand or market forces or how I call it law of herd. It is the same as say lets stop buying sardine class and it force them to reduce it in favor of PE/J that lower prices on PE/J. I never fly in cattle class on intercontinental routes, but I fail to see that that cattle class is empty.
RedWood
RedWood
Member since 04 Sep 2019
Total posts 38
classic plus is points + pay. dont care how you try to sell it to me, it is what it is
dm12
dm12
Member since 08 Feb 2018
Total posts 211
Agreed. Total disgrace.
I no longer care for qf points. I just choose the cheapest flight available for a reasonable airline/schedule.
NQflyer
NQflyer
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 02 Jun 2015
Total posts 64
Originally Posted by Drakesy
Qantas quite literally repackaged Points + Pay, increased point costs and marketed as a polished turd that'll "revolutionise the way we book points flights"
Qantas belongs in the bin along with their board.
NQflyer
NQflyer
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 02 Jun 2015
Total posts 64
Originally Posted by Drakesy
Qantas quite literally repackaged Points + Pay, increased point costs and marketed as a polished turd that'll "revolutionise the way we book points flights"
Qantas belongs in the bin along with their board.