Being reported in Malaysian media now that Emirates have applied to Singapore authorities to pull out of the Melbourne to Singapore route and have its capacity controls released (as was required with the QF/Emirates tie up). Surely Qantas would now reinstate the A380 on Melbourne to Singapore frequency that ties into the QF1/2 flight onwards to London? That would keep some of their market share, and offer Premium Economy and First Class all the way from Melbourne to London on Qantas metal. What do you all think?
Being reported in Malaysian media now that Emirates have applied to Singapore authorities to pull out of the Melbourne to Singapore route and have its capacity controls released (as was required with the QF/Emirates tie up). Surely Qantas would now reinstate the A380 on Melbourne to Singapore frequency that ties into the QF1/2 flight onwards to London? That would keep some of their market share, and offer Premium Economy and First Class all the way from Melbourne to London on Qantas metal. What do you all think?
In theory, it sounds like a great idea, but I highly doubt they have a spare A380 to do this.
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
Emirates should add a third daily nonstop service to Melbourne possibly on a A380, with new a flight time (maybe an afternoon departure out of Melbourne would be nice matching the afternoon Qatar & Etihad flights), and then a afternoon arrival similar to Sydney's EK416 flight.
Melbourne to Dubai:
EK409 departs 5-6am
EK405 departs 3-4pm
Ek407 departs 9-10pm
Dubai to Melbourne:
EK406 arrives 5-6am
EK404 arrives 4-5pm
EK408 arrives 9-10pm
Since the EK406 plane arrives in the morning then leaves Melbourne late at night as EK407, maybe Emirates could use the plane as EK405 for afternoon departure and then the EK404 plane can fly out as EK407. This allows Emirates to not have there A380s on the ground in Melbourne for a long time, unless they keep EK404/405 a 777.
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
Last editedby WelcomeAboard at Sep 09, 2024, 12:17 PM.
Seems like SQ has more flights than our supposedly national carrier... by far. 🤔
Well SIN is SQ's home base and super-hub, whereas for QF it's only a scissor hub for their LHR flights and their 3K (JQ Asia) ops into mostly the Asian beach cities.
Being reported in Malaysian media now that Emirates have applied to Singapore authorities to pull out of the Melbourne to Singapore route and have its capacity controls released (as was required with the QF/Emirates tie up). Surely Qantas would now reinstate the A380 on Melbourne to Singapore frequency that ties into the QF1/2 flight onwards to London? That would keep some of their market share, and offer Premium Economy and First Class all the way from Melbourne to London on Qantas metal. What do you all think?
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
hakkinen5
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Being reported in Malaysian media now that Emirates have applied to Singapore authorities to pull out of the Melbourne to Singapore route and have its capacity controls released (as was required with the QF/Emirates tie up). Surely Qantas would now reinstate the A380 on Melbourne to Singapore frequency that ties into the QF1/2 flight onwards to London? That would keep some of their market share, and offer Premium Economy and First Class all the way from Melbourne to London on Qantas metal. What do you all think?
Grannular
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Does Qantas even have spare A380 capacity to move on to this route?
Ryan K
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Originally Posted by hakkinen5
Being reported in Malaysian media now that Emirates have applied to Singapore authorities to pull out of the Melbourne to Singapore route and have its capacity controls released (as was required with the QF/Emirates tie up). Surely Qantas would now reinstate the A380 on Melbourne to Singapore frequency that ties into the QF1/2 flight onwards to London? That would keep some of their market share, and offer Premium Economy and First Class all the way from Melbourne to London on Qantas metal. What do you all think?
WelcomeAboard
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I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
EK - 777-300ER Daily (to be cancelled)
SQ - 2x 777-300ER Daily and 3x A350-900 Daily
QF - A330-200/300 13 pw
JQ - B787-8 Daily
Scoot - B787-9 10pw
TK - A350-900 3pw
neddie3noah
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Melbourne to Dubai:
EK409 departs 5-6am
EK405 departs 3-4pm
Ek407 departs 9-10pm
Dubai to Melbourne:
EK406 arrives 5-6am
EK404 arrives 4-5pm
EK408 arrives 9-10pm
Since the EK406 plane arrives in the morning then leaves Melbourne late at night as EK407, maybe Emirates could use the plane as EK405 for afternoon departure and then the EK404 plane can fly out as EK407. This allows Emirates to not have there A380s on the ground in Melbourne for a long time, unless they keep EK404/405 a 777.
Phil Young
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Member since 22 Oct 2012
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Originally Posted by Grannular
Does Qantas even have spare A380 capacity to move on to this route?
quantumreality
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Originally Posted by WelcomeAboard
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
EK - 777-300ER Daily (to be cancelled)
SQ - 2x 777-300ER Daily and 3x A350-900 Daily
QF - A330-200/300 13 pw
JQ - B787-8 Daily
Scoot - B787-9 10pw
TK - A350-900 3pw
Seems like SQ has more flights than our supposedly national carrier... by far. 🤔
DanV
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Originally Posted by quantumreality
Originally Posted by WelcomeAboard
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
EK - 777-300ER Daily (to be cancelled)
SQ - 2x 777-300ER Daily and 3x A350-900 Daily
QF - A330-200/300 13 pw
JQ - B787-8 Daily
Scoot - B787-9 10pw
TK - A350-900 3pw
Seems like SQ has more flights than our supposedly national carrier... by far. 🤔
Serg
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Originally Posted by hakkinen5
Being reported in Malaysian media now that Emirates have applied to Singapore authorities to pull out of the Melbourne to Singapore route and have its capacity controls released (as was required with the QF/Emirates tie up). Surely Qantas would now reinstate the A380 on Melbourne to Singapore frequency that ties into the QF1/2 flight onwards to London? That would keep some of their market share, and offer Premium Economy and First Class all the way from Melbourne to London on Qantas metal. What do you all think?
Serg
Serg
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Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 999
Originally Posted by quantumreality
Originally Posted by WelcomeAboard
I think the whole point is there too much capacity in the market, which is why Emirates wish to drop the route. It doesn't make sense for Qantas to sub in an A380. Across all carriers (excluding Emirates) there are 68 departures per week. Whilst SQ and TK are targetting connecting traffic, there is still a fair amount of capacity compared to other hubs and yields for Origin / Destination traffic would be low.
EK - 777-300ER Daily (to be cancelled)
SQ - 2x 777-300ER Daily and 3x A350-900 Daily
QF - A330-200/300 13 pw
JQ - B787-8 Daily
Scoot - B787-9 10pw
TK - A350-900 3pw
Seems like SQ has more flights than our supposedly national carrier... by far. 🤔